');background-repeat: no-repeat;background-position: right 7px center;background-size: 20px;width: 100%;padding: 7px 40px 7px 10px;margin:0px 0px 20px 0px;font-size:15px;line-height:23px;border-right:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-bottom:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-left:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-top:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-radius: 2px;background-color: white;cursor: pointer;color:#5b5b5b;}.forum_form_text_input {width: 100%;box-sizing: border-box;font-family: Arial;font-size:15px;line-height:23px;color: #5b5b5b;padding:7px 10px 7px 10px;margin:0px 10px 15px 0px;border-right:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-bottom:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-left:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-top:1px solid #cdcdcd;background-color:#ffffff;outline: none;vertical-align:middle;-webkit-box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -1px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);-moz-box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -1px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -1px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);-moz-border-radius:3px;border-radius:3px;}.forum_form_text_textarea {height:300px;padding:20px;width: 100%;box-sizing: border-box;color:#7f7f7f; font-family: Arial;font-size:15px;line-height:23px;color: #5b5b5b;padding:10px 10px 10px 10px;margin:0px 10px 15px 0px;border-right:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-bottom:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-left:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-top:1px solid #cdcdcd;background-color:#ffffff;outline: none;vertical-align:middle;-webkit-box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -1px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);-moz-box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -1px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -1px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);-moz-border-radius:3px;border-radius:3px;}.forum_form_button_grey {display:inline-block;font-family: Arial;outline: none;border-top-left-radius: 5px;border-top-right-radius: 5px;border-bottom-left-radius: 5px;border-bottom-right-radius: 5px;user-select: none; -webkit-user-select: none; -moz-user-select: none; -ms-user-select: none; text-align:center;cursor: pointer;vertical-align:middle;font-size:15px;height:40px;line-height:40px;padding:0px 13px 0px 13px;margin:0px 10px 10px 0px;color:#ffffff;background-color:#848484;box-sizing:border-box; box-shadow: 0 1px 8px -3px #d5d5d5;}.forum_form_button_grey:hover {text-decoration: none;opacity: 0.7;}.forum_form_button_blue {display:inline-block;font-family: Arial;outline: none;border-top-left-radius: 5px;border-top-right-radius: 5px;border-bottom-left-radius: 5px;border-bottom-right-radius: 5px;user-select: none; -webkit-user-select: none; -moz-user-select: none; -ms-user-select: none; text-align:center;cursor: pointer;vertical-align:middle;font-size:16px;height:40px;line-height:40px;padding:0px 13px 0px 13px;margin:0px 10px 10px 0px;color:#ffffff;background-color:#1a74ad;box-sizing:border-box;border:0px;box-shadow: 0 1px 8px -3px #d5d5d5;}.forum_form_button_blue:hover {text-decoration: none;opacity: 0.7;}.forum_new_thread_form_entity_link_wrapper {margin:0px 0px 15px 0px;}.forum_form_radio {display: inline-flex;align-items: center;margin-right: 12px;cursor: pointer;user-select: none;margin:0px 10px 10px 0px;}.forum_form_radio input[type="radio"] {display: none;}.forum_form_radio .forum_form_radio_mark {width: 16px;height: 16px;background-color: #ffffff;border: 1.5px solid #cdcdcd;border-radius: 50%;margin-right: 8px;position: relative;}.forum_form_radio input[type="radio"]:checked + .forum_form_radio_mark::after {content: "";position: absolute;top: 3px;left: 3px;width: 10px;height: 10px;background: #a90047;border-radius: 50%;}.forum_form_errors {margin:0px 0px 20px 0px;}.forum_form_errors > p {color:red;font-size:15px;line-height:22px;margin:0px 0px 8px 0px;padding:0px 5px 0px 5px;font-weight:normal;}.forum_new_thread_success_wrapper {border-radius: 10px;background-color:#f4f4f4;padding:20px 20px 15px 20px;margin:0px 0px 30px 0px;scroll-margin-top: 90px;}.forum_new_thread_success_wrapper h2 {font-weight: normal;color: #343333;opacity: 1;margin: 0px 0px 10px 0px;position: relative;top:-2px;font-size:18px;line-height:28px;}.forum_new_thread_success_wrapper p {color:#8c8c8c;font-size:15px;line-height:22px;margin:0px 0px 15px 0px;padding:0px 5px 0px 0px;font-weight:normal;}.forum_pagination_wrapper {margin:0px 0px 15px 0px;}.forum_pagination_wrapper a {text-align: center;display: inline-block;background-color:#f2f2f2;color:#6a6a6a;font-size:15px;line-height: 25px;padding:5px 10px 5px 10px;margin:0px 10px 10px 0px;border-radius:5px;}.forum_pagination_wrapper a:hover {text-decoration: none;opacity: 0.5;}.forum_pagination_wrapper span.forum_pagination_current {text-align: center;display: inline-block;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:bold;color:#6a6a6a;font-size:15px;line-height: 25px;padding:5px 5px 5px 5px;margin:0px 10px 10px 0px;border-radius:5px;}.forum_pagination_wrapper span.forum_pagination_dots {text-align: center;display: inline-block;background-color:#ffffff;font-weight:bold;color:#6a6a6a;font-size:15px;line-height: 25px;padding:5px 5px 5px 5px;margin:0px 10px 10px 0px;border-radius:5px;}#forum_thread_output_wrapper {margin:0px 0px 25px 0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 0px;}.thread_wrapper {width: 100%;box-sizing: border-box;}.thread_wrapper_pointer {cursor: pointer;}.thread_wrapper_no_pointer {}.thread_wrapper h2 {font-size: 17px;line-height: 24px;margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;font-weight:normal;color:#323232;}.thread_wrapper h2 > a {color:#323232;}.thread_wrapper:hover {background-color: #f8f6f1;}.thread_wrapper_inactive {margin: 0px 0px 10px 0px;background-color: #f8f6f1;border-radius:7px;border-right:1px solid #efefef;border-bottom:1px solid #d5d5d5;}.thread_wrapper_active {margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;background-color: #f6f3ea;border-right:1px solid #d5d5d5;border-bottom:1px solid #d5d5d5;border-radius:7px;background:linear-gradient(to top, #f6f3ea 0%, #f6f3ea 10%);box-shadow: 2px 2px 7px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.1);}.thread_wrapper_single_thread_view {}.forum_thread_intro_wrapper h1 {font-size:25px;line-height:32px;margin:0px 0px 7px 0px;color: #010000;font-weight: normal;}.forum_thread_intro_wrapper img {float: left;margin: 0px 10px 0px 0px;}.forum_thread_intro_wrapper p {font-size:17px;line-height:26px;margin:0px 0px 15px 0px;color:#666666;}.forum_thread_footer {padding:0px 0px 0px 0px;margin:0px 0px 30px 0px;}.forum_thread_footer p {font-size:17px;line-height:26px;margin:0px 0px 15px 0px;color:#666666;}.thread_header {overflow-wrap: break-word;word-wrap: break-word;-ms-word-break: break-all;word-break: break-all;word-break: break-word;-ms-hyphens: auto;-moz-hyphens: auto;-webkit-hyphens: auto;hyphens: auto;}@media (min-width: 1px) and (max-width:499px) {.thread_header { padding:15px 15px 13px 15px; }}@media (min-width: 500px) {.thread_header { padding:15px 20px 18px 20px; }}.thread_header_single_thread_view {padding:0px 0px 10px 0px;overflow-wrap: break-word;word-wrap: break-word;-ms-word-break: break-all;word-break: break-all;word-break: break-word;-ms-hyphens: auto;-moz-hyphens: auto;-webkit-hyphens: auto;hyphens: auto;background-color:#ffffff;}.thread_header_hot_topic_icon {float:left;position:relative;top: 2px;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;width:15px;opacity:0.8;height:auto;}.thread_header_vip_topic_icon {float:left;position:relative;top: 2px;left: -2px;margin:0px 2px 0px 0px;width:20px;opacity:0.8;height:auto;}.thread_header_locked_thread_icon {float:left;position:relative;top: 2px;left: -2px;margin:0px 2px 0px 0px;width:20px;opacity:0.8;height:auto;}.thread_header_dropdown_icon {float: right;position: relative;top: 5px;margin: 0px 10px 0px 20px;}.thread_footer {margin:4px 0px 0px 0px;}.thread_post_count_link {color:#9b9995;}.thread_footer_star_wrapper {display:inline-block;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;cursor: pointer;}.thread_footer_star_wrapper_icon_inactive {display:inline-block;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px; background-image: url("https://www.kritische-anleger.de/bilder/icons-individual/kritische_anleger_single_star_grey.svg");width:18px;height:18px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;opacity:0.7;position: relative;top:4px;}.thread_footer_star_wrapper_icon_inactive:hover { background-image: url("https://www.kritische-anleger.de/bilder/icons-individual/kritische_anleger_single_star_grey.svg");}.thread_footer_star_wrapper_icon_active {display:inline-block;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px; background-image: url("https://www.kritische-anleger.de/bilder/icons-individual/kritische_anleger_single_star_orange.svg");width:18px;height:18px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;opacity:0.7;position: relative;top:4px;}.thread_footer_star_wrapper_icon_active:hover { background-image: url("https://www.kritische-anleger.de/bilder/icons-individual/kritische_anleger_single_star_orange.svg");opacity:0.9;}.thread_footer_date_wrapper {display:inline-block;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;}.thread_footer_date_wrapper img {float: left;width:15px;height:15px;margin:0px 2px 0px 0px;opacity:0.5;position: relative;top:2px;}.thread_footer_date_wrapper span {color:#5b5b5b;opacity:0.7;font-size:14px; line-height: 20px;}.thread_footer_post_count_wrapper {display:inline-block;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;}.thread_footer_post_count_wrapper {color:#5b5b5b;opacity:0.7;font-size:14px; line-height: 20px;}.thread_footer_post_count_icon_blue {display:inline-block;margin:0px 3px 0px 0px; background-image: url("https://www.kritische-anleger.de/bilder/icons-individual/kritische_anleger_comment_blue.svg");width:20px;height:20px;position: relative;top:6px;}.thread_footer_post_count_icon_grey {display:inline-block;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px; background-image: url("https://www.kritische-anleger.de/bilder/icons-individual/kritische_anleger_comment_grey.svg");width:20px;height:20px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;position: relative;top:6px;}.thread_footer_object_wrapper {display:inline-block;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;}.thread_footer_object_wrapper a {color:#ae2d53;font-size:14px;line-height: 20px;opacity: 1.0;}.thread_footer_object_wrapper a:visited {color:#ae2d53;font-size:14px;line-height: 20px;opacity: 1.0;}.thread_footer_backend_link {display:inline-block;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;}.thread_footer_backend_link a {color:#5b5b5b;opacity:0.7;font-size:14px; line-height: 20px;}.thread_posts_wrapper {width:100%;max-width:100%;margin:0px 0px 25px 0px;padding:10px 0px 0px 0px;border-radius: 10px;}.thread_post_wrapper {border-top:1px solid #efefef;border-left:1px solid #efefef;border-bottom:1px solid #d5d5d5;border-right:1px solid #d5d5d5;background:linear-gradient(to top, #f7f7f7 0%, #fcfcfc 10%);border-radius: 10px;margin:0px 0px 10px 0px;overflow-wrap: break-word;word-wrap: break-word;word-break: break-word;hyphens: auto;}@media (min-width: 1px) and (max-width:499px) {.thread_post_wrapper { padding:10px 15px 15px 15px; }}@media (min-width: 500px) {.thread_post_wrapper { padding:15px 20px 20px 20px; }}.thread_post_wrapper p {font-size:16px;line-height:23px;color:#323232;margin:0px 0px 15px 0px;}.thread_post_wrapper p:last-of-type {margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;}.thread_post_header {font-size:15px;line-height:20px;color: #8c8c8c;margin:0px 0px 10px 0px;scroll-margin-top: 90px;}.thread_post_updated_bar {display:inline-block;padding:5px 10px 5px 10px;color:#969696;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;background-color:#eaeaea;margin:15px 0px 2px 0px;border-radius:5px;}.thread_post_footer {margin:10px 0px 0px 0px;font-size:15px;line-height:20px;}.thread_post_footer_heart_icon_inactive {cursor: pointer; background-image: url("https://www.kritische-anleger.de/bilder/icons-individual/kritische_anleger_heart_grey.svg");width:22px;height:22px;position:relative;top:5px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;}.thread_post_footer_heart_icon_inactive:hover { background-image: url("https://www.kritische-anleger.de/bilder/icons-individual/kritische_anleger_heart_grey.svg");}.thread_post_footer_heart_icon_semi_active {cursor: pointer; background-image: url("https://www.kritische-anleger.de/bilder/icons-individual/kritische_anleger_heart_lila.svg");width:22px;height:22px;position:relative;top:5px;opacity: 0.4;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;}.thread_post_footer_heart_icon_semi_active:hover { background-image: url("https://www.kritische-anleger.de/bilder/icons-individual/kritische_anleger_heart_lila.svg");}.thread_post_footer_heart_icon_active {cursor: pointer; background-image: url("https://www.kritische-anleger.de/bilder/icons-individual/kritische_anleger_heart_lila.svg");width:22px;height:22px;position:relative;top:5px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;}.thread_post_heart_count {text-decoration:none;font-size:13px;line-height:20px;color: #8c8c8c;}.thread_post_footer_reply_icon {width:10px;height:auto;position:relative;top:-1px;margin:0px 2px 0px 10px;}.thread_post_edit_icon {width:10px;height:auto;position:relative;top:0px;margin:0px 5px 0px 10px;}.thread_post_edit_link {text-decoration: underline;cursor: pointer;color:#1a4d6f;}.thread_post_delete_icon {width:10px;height:auto;position:relative;top:0px;margin:0px 5px 0px 10px;}.thread_post_delete_link {text-decoration: underline;cursor: pointer;color:#1a4d6f;}.thread_post_footer_backend_link {text-decoration:underline;margin:0px 0px 0px 10px;}.thread_post_header_backend_link {text-decoration: underline;}.thread_post_link_icon {float:right;opacity:0.5;width:15px;height:auto;position:relative;top:10px;}.thread_post_report_icon {cursor: pointer;margin:0px 10px 0px 0px;}.thread_post_report_icon > img {float:right;opacity:0.4;width:18px;height:auto;position:relative;top:9px;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;}.post_user_icon_redaktion {width:22px;height:auto;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;position: relative;top:7px;left:0px;}.post_username_label_redaktion {background-color:#489824;font-size:13px;border-radius:3px;padding:1px 6px 1px 6px;color:#ffffff;display:inline-block;}.post_user_icon_star_der_community {width:21px;height:auto;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;opacity:1.0;position: relative;top:6px;left:0px;}.post_username_label_grey_background {background-color:#d5d5d5;opacity: 0.7;font-size:13px;border-radius:3px;padding:1px 6px 1px 6px;color:#323232;font-weight:bold;display:inline-block;}.post_username_label_frequent_poster {background-color:#c36083;font-size:13px;border-radius:3px;padding:1px 6px 1px 6px;color:#ffffff;font-weight:bold;display:inline-block;}.post_username_label_star_der_community {background-color:#ffbd29;font-size:13px;border-radius:3px;padding:1px 6px 1px 6px;color:#ffffff;font-weight:bold;display:inline-block;}.post_user_icon_frequent_poster {width:20px;height:auto;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;opacity:0.7;position: relative;top:6px;left:-1px;}.post_user_icon_registriertes_mitglied {width:20px;height:auto;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;opacity:0.5;position: relative;top:6px;left:0px;}.post_user_icon_anonymer_user {width:17px;height:auto;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;opacity:0.7;position: relative;top:3px;left:-3px;}.post_user_icon_verified_partner {width:22px;height:auto;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;position: relative;top:6px;left:0px;}.post_username_label_verified_partner {background-color:#6088a5;font-size:13px;border-radius:3px;padding:1px 6px 0px 6px;color:#ffffff;display:inline-block;}.thread_post_form_wrapper {padding:25px 20px 15px 20px;background-color:#f4f4f4;border-bottom:1px solid #d5d5d5;margin:0px 0px 10px 0px;border-radius:10px;}.thread_post_form_wrapper p {font-size:15px;line-height: 22px;}.thread_post_form_textarea {height:300px;padding:20px;width: 100%;box-sizing: border-box;color:#7f7f7f; font-family: Arial;font-size:15px;line-height:23px;color: #5b5b5b;padding:10px 10px 10px 10px;margin:0px 10px 15px 0px;border-right:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-bottom:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-left:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-top:1px solid #cdcdcd;background-color:#ffffff;outline: none;vertical-align:middle;-webkit-box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -1px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);-moz-box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -1px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -1px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);-moz-border-radius:3px;border-radius:3px;}.thread_post_form_input {width: 100%;box-sizing: border-box;color:#7f7f7f; font-family: Arial;font-size:15px;line-height:23px;color: #5b5b5b;padding:7px 10px 7px 10px;margin:0px 10px 15px 0px;border-right:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-bottom:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-left:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-top:1px solid #cdcdcd;background-color:#ffffff;outline: none;vertical-align:middle;-webkit-box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -1px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);-moz-box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -1px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -1px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);-moz-border-radius:3px;border-radius:3px;}.thread_post_form_explanation {margin:0px 0px 15px 0px;padding:0px 5px 0px 5px;color:#8c8c8c;font-size:15px;line-height:22px;}.thread_post_form_explanation p {color:#8c8c8c;font-size:15px;line-height:22px;margin:0px 0px 15px 0px;padding:0px 5px 0px 5px;}.thread_post_form_success_message {margin:0px 0px 10px 0px;padding:0px 5px 0px 5px;color:#8c8c8c;font-size:15px;line-height:22px;}.thread_post_form_success_message p {font-size:15px;line-height: 22px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;}.thread_post_form_button {display:inline-block;font-family: Arial;outline: none;border-top-left-radius: 5px;border-top-right-radius: 5px;border-bottom-left-radius: 5px;border-bottom-right-radius: 5px;user-select: none; -webkit-user-select: none; -moz-user-select: none; -ms-user-select: none; text-align:center;cursor: pointer;vertical-align:middle;font-size:15px;height:37px;line-height:36px;padding:0px 13px 0px 13px;margin:0px 10px 0px 0px;color:#5b5b5b;background-color:#efefef;border:1px solid #d5d5d5;background:linear-gradient(to top, #efefef 0%, #fdfdfd 100%);box-sizing:border-box; box-shadow: 0 1px 8px -3px #d5d5d5;}.thread_post_form_button:hover {text-decoration: none;opacity: 0.7;background:linear-gradient(to top, #d5d5d5 0%, #fdfdfd 100%);color:#000000;}.thread_post_form_loading_icon {position:relative;top:3px;}.thread_post_form_error_messages_wrapper {background-color:#ffe0e0;color:#fa2c2c;padding:10px 15px 1px 15px;margin:0px 0px 15px 0px;border-radius:5px;}.thread_post_form_error_messages_wrapper p {margin:0px 0px 10px 0px;font-size:15px;line-height:22px;}.thread_post_unavailable_message {padding:20px;background-color:#fbfbfb;border-top:1px solid #ffffff;border-bottom:1px solid #d5d5d5;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;color:#8c8c8c;font-size:15px;line-height:22px;}.thread_is_locked_message {padding:20px;background-color:#f4f4f4;border-top:1px solid #ffffff;border-bottom:1px solid #d5d5d5;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;color:#8c8c8c;font-size:15px;line-height:22px;}.forum_overview_pagination_wrapper {margin:0px 0px 20px 0px;text-align: left;}.forum_overview_pagination_wrapper a {padding:5px 5px 5px 5px;background-color:#f9f7f1;margin:0px 3px 0px 0px;color:#666666;text-decoration: none;font-size:15px;}.forum_overview_intro_wrapper {margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;}.forum_overview_intro_wrapper h1 {font-size:25px;line-height:32px;margin:0px 0px 13px 0px;color: #010000;font-weight: normal;opacity: 0.8;scroll-margin-top: 90px;}.forum_overview_intro_wrapper img {float: left;margin: 0px 10px 0px 0px;}.forum_overview_intro_wrapper p {font-size:17px;line-height:26px;margin:0px 0px 15px 0px;color:#666666;}@media (min-width: 1px) and (max-width:399px) {.rum_overview_unordered_list {left:-12px;}}@media (min-width: 400px) {.forum_overview_unordered_list {left:0px;}}.forum_overview_unordered_list ul {list-style: none;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;}.forum_overview_unordered_list {margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;text-align: left;position:relative;}.forum_overview_unordered_list li {position: relative;padding: 0px 0px 7px 0px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;font-size:17px;line-height: 23px;color:#666666;}.forum_overview_unordered_list li:before {content: '';position: absolute;border-right: 2px solid #474747;border-bottom: 2px solid #474747;width: 7px;height: 7px;top: 7px; left: -25px;transform: rotate(-45deg);}.forum_overview_topic_list_box {margin:25px 0px 25px 0px;}@media (min-width: 1px) and (max-width:799px) {.forum_overview_column_layout_wrapper {width:100%;}.forum_overview_column_layout_left {display:none;}.forum_overview_column_layout_right {padding:0px 0px 0px 0px;}.forum_overview_topic_list_box {display:block;}.forum_overview_ad_box {display:block;margin:0px 0px 20px 0px;}}@media (min-width: 800px) {.forum_overview_column_layout_wrapper {display: table;width:100%;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;}.forum_overview_column_layout_left {width:33%;min-width:300px;display: table-cell;vertical-align: top;padding: 0px 15px 0px 0px;}.forum_overview_column_layout_right {width: 67%;display: table-cell;vertical-align: top;padding:0px 20px 0px 20px;}.forum_overview_topic_list_box {display:none;}.forum_overview_ad_box {display:none;}}@media (min-width: 1px) and (max-width:499px) {.forum_overview_hide_on_mobile {display:none;}}.forum_overview_menu_wrapper {background-color:#fbfbfb;margin:0px 0px 20px 0px;border-radius:10px;box-sizing: border-box;}.forum_overview_menu_wrapper a:first-of-type {border-top-left-radius: 10px;border-top-right-radius: 10px;}.forum_overview_menu_wrapper a:last-of-type {border-bottom-left-radius: 10px;border-bottom-right-radius: 10px;}.forum_overview_menu_inner {text-decoration: none;display:block;box-sizing: border-box;width:100%;cursor: pointer;padding:8px 20px 11px 20px;font-size:17px;line-height:24px;border-bottom:1px solid #efefef;border-top:1px solid #ffffff;color:#666666;}.forum_overview_menu_inner:hover {background-color:#f2f2f2;text-decoration: none;color:#666666;}.forum_overview_menu_inner img:first-of-type {width:20px;height:auto;position:relative;top:4px;}.forum_overview_menu_inner > img:nth-child(3) {float:right;position:relative;top:8px;opacity:0.5;width:13px;height:auto;}.forum_overview_menu_inner > span:nth-child(2) {margin:0px 0px 0px 10px;}.forum_overview_menu_inner > span:nth-child(3) {float:right;color:#d5d5d5;font-size:15px;}.forum_overview_menu_inner_inactive {background-color:#fbfbfb;}.forum_overview_menu_inner_active {background-color:#f2f2f2;}.forum_overview_inner_with_separation {border-bottom:1px solid #d5d5d5;}.forum_overview_inner_round_corders_bottom {border-bottom-left-radius: 5px;border-bottom-right-radius: 5px;}.forum_overview_menu_inner div {color:#666666;display:inline-block;margin:0px 10px 0px 0px;text-decoration: none;}.forum_overview_menu_inner div:hover {background-color:#efefef;}.forum_overview_menu_inner_details_wrapper {border-bottom:1px solid #d5d5d5;}.forum_overview_menu_inner_details {border-top:1px solid #ffffff;border-bottom:1px solid #ffffff;padding:20px 20px 20px 20px;background-color:#f5f5f5;background-image: url("data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg width='6' height='6' viewBox='0 0 6 6' xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2000/svg'%3E%3Cg fill='%23efefef' fill-opacity='0.4' fill-rule='evenodd'%3E%3Cpath d='M5 0h1L0 6V5zM6 5v1H5z'/%3E%3C/g%3E%3C/svg%3E");}.forum_overview_menu_inner_details p {color:#a90047;font-size:14px;line-height:15px;margin:10px 0px 0px 0px;}.forum_overview_search_text_input {width:120px;box-sizing: border-box;color:#666666;font-family: Arial;font-size:16px;height:38px;line-height:38px;vertical-align: middle;padding:11px 10px 10px 10px;margin:0px 5px 0px 0px;border-right:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-bottom:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-left:1px solid #cdcdcd;border-top:1px solid #cdcdcd;background-color:#ffffff;outline: none;vertical-align:middle;border-radius:5px;-webkit-box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -2px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);-moz-box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -2px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);box-shadow: inset 2px 2px 3px -2px rgba(0,0,0,0.13);}.forum_overview_search_button {text-align: center;height:36px;line-height:20px;vertical-align: middle;box-sizing: border-box;width:75px;display: inline-block;cursor: pointer;padding:8px 10px 8px 10px;margin:0px 0px 0px 0px;font-size:16px;background-color: #1a74ad;color:#ffffff;border-radius: 5px;position: relative;top:0px;}.forum_overview_search_button:hover {opacity: 0.5;}.box_header {display: none;color:#666666;font-size:16px;line-height:24px;margin:0px 25px 0px 0px;padding:5px 20px 5px 15px;box-sizing: border-box;border-top-right-radius: 10px;border-top-left-radius: 10px;}.dropdownYeah {padding:5px 15px 5px 5px;border:1px solid #d5d5d5;font-size:16px;color:#666666;border-radius: 5px;}.forum_overview_search_wrapper {margin:0px 25px 20px 0px;padding:20px 20px 25px 20px;box-sizing: border-box;border-radius: 5px;}.forum_overview_search_wrapper p {border-radius: 5px;padding:0px 10px 5px 0px;color:#666666;font-size:17px;line-height:24px;margin:0px 0px 20px 0px;border-bottom:1px solid #efefef;}
Wenn eine Bank in Deutschland pleitegeht und der Entschädigungsfall festgestellt wird, erhalten die Kunden normalerweise innerhalb von 5 bis 7 Tagen ihr Geld vom zuständigen Einlagensicherungsfonds ausbezahlt (siehe: https://einlagensicherung.de/einlagensicherung/gesetzliche-sicherung/entschaedigungsverfahren/). Was passiert aber, wenn ein (Neo-)Broker plötzlich den Betrieb einstellt? Natürlich sind die Kundendepots als Sondervermögen geschützt, aber wie - und vor allem wann - kommt man als Anleger an seine Wertpapiere?
Was ich mir bislang hierzu ergoogeln konnte, ist ziemlich ernüchternd. Demnach sind die betroffenen Kunden darauf angewiesen, dass zügig ein Insolvenzverwalter bestellt wird und dieser dann möglichst bald die erforderlichen Schritte für die Abwicklung bzw. den Transfer der Depots einleitet. Das kann im Einzelfall aber wohl schon mal Wochen oder gar Monate dauern, in denen man als Anleger keinen Zugriff auf seine Wertpapiere hat und z.B. im Falle eines Börsencrashs nicht reagieren kann (wie sich das anfühlt, durfte ich erst vor Kurzem erfahren, als Vanguard überraschend den Direktvertrieb in Deutschland einstellte und es im Anschluss mehrere Monate dauerte, bis mein dortiges Depot zu einem anderen Anbieter übertragen wurde). Wie soll man also mit diesem Risiko umgehen? Die kostengünstigen Neobroker, die durch das bevorstehende PFOF-Verbot und den daraus resultierenden Preiskampf womöglich schon bald gehörig unter Druck geraten, komplett meiden oder die Wertpapieranlage bloß auf mehrere Anbieter (welche?) verteilen, um das Risiko zu streuen, so wie es ja auch bei allen anderen Formen der Geldanlage empfohlen wird? Oder lieber gleich auf die bereits etablierten, aber teureren Anbieter setzen und die Mehrkosten, insbesondere beim Verkauf (!!!), in Kauf nehmen? Und sind diese "klassischen" (Online-)Broker für den Ernstfall tatsächlich besser aufgestellt?
Über fundierte Denkanstöße zu diesen Fragen und mögliche Erfahrungsberichte zu früheren Broker/Depotbank-Pleiten würde ich mich freuen.
Danke für deine Gedanken, die ich in ähnlicher Form teile. Call me "altmodisch", aber so richtig konnte ich mich für mein Altersvorsorgedepot noch nicht mit den Neobrokern anfreunden :-( Habe bzw. hatte da zwar auch mehrere Depots, aber nur zum Spielen. Fühle mich bei den größeren Beträgen dann doch irgendwie wohler, wenn ich auch schnell mal jemanden anrufen kann und das war bisher bei der Comdirect auch immer der Fall. Klar, die sind teurer, aber das nehme ich irgendwie in Kauf. Wir reden da ja auch nicht über Trade Republic vs. Sparkassen Broker.
Alternative zum zentralen Depot bei einer klassischen Bank könnte wie immer noch das Risikosplitting auf mehrere Neobroker sein, um im Notfall halbwegs handlungsfähig zu bleiben. Aber klar: Das macht halt wieder Mehraufwand ... no free lunch und so :-)
@Spooky78,
träfe dieses Szenario auch auf das nicht investiertes Kapital zu, oder gilt da der Sicherungsfonds der Banken bzw. des Landes?
@ Fred: Gelder auf Verrechnungskonten sind ganz normal über die gesetzliche Einlagensicherung geschützt. Finanztip hat das mal recht anschaulich am Beispiel von Trade Republic dargestellt: https://www.finanztip.de/wertpapierdepot/trade-republic-einlagensicherung/