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@ Sonnenschein: Wie bereits erwähnt, handelt es sich bei dem angebotenen Produkt nicht um Tagesgeld, sondern die Kundengelder werden "geschäftstäglich ... entsprechend der Weisung des Kunden in OTC-Währungsswap-Transaktionen investiert." Der Zinssatz ist dabei an den variablen SOFR-Satz (Secured Overnight Financing Rate) und den EURIBOR-Satz (Euro Interbank Offered Rate) für Anleihen in USD bzw. EUR gebunden.
Bei dem ebenfalls beworbenen "Festgeld-Ersatz" kommen offenbar auch noch derivative Hebelprodukte zum Einsatz, denn in den Erläuterungen heißt es: "Die Zinssätze für langfristige Sparpläne werden mit den Multiplikatoren 1,1, 1,25 und 1,5 berechnet, die auf den SOFR und den EURIBOR für Anlagen mit einer Laufzeit von 3 Monaten, 6 Monaten bzw. 12 Monaten angewendet werden. Die Zinssätze sind dynamisch, werden jedoch zum Zeitpunkt der Platzierung der Einlage festgelegt und bleiben während der gewählten Laufzeit unverändert."
Wie das alles im Einzelnen funktioniert, kann ich ohne Einblick in die konkreten Produktbedingungen, den offenbar nur registrierte Kunden erhalten, leider auch nicht sagen, aber eine Annäherung an diese Thematik kann eventuell folgende Seite liefern: https://libertex.com/de/blog/cross-currency-swaps
Auf jeden Fall handelt es sich hierbei um Anlageformen, die auch im Hinblick auf die Einlagensicherung nicht mit klassischem Tages- ode Festgeld vergleichbar sind. Das höhere Risiko schlägt sich dafür aber auch in einer vergleichsweise höheren Verzinsung nieder.
Vielen Dank, Spooky78, für Deine hilfreiche Antwort!
Wie gerade schon in riner Antwort an David Stahmann geschrieben:
Zum Glück lerne ich nie aus :)
Dass "lp" Landing Page bedeutet, wusste ich nicht. Und jetzt werde ich mich erst mal schlau machen und schauen, was Landing Page bedeutet ;)
Auch danke schön für Deinen Hinweis, dass freedom24 auf Zypern beheimatet ist und Berlin eine Niederlassung ist.
Mir ist ein Impressum immer sehr wichtig und wenn irgendetwas fehlt oder merkwürdig erscheint bekomme ich Zweifel.
Mir ist es lieber vorsichtig zu sein, als leichtsinnig.
Es gibt leider so, so viel Betrug, und im Internet ganz besonders :(
Kannst Du uns erklären, wie diese Bank so hohe Zinsen auf Tagesgeld geben kann? Würde meinen Laienverstand so gerne ein ganz klein wenig reduzieren.
Liebe Freitagsgrüße
Sonnenschein
Scheint ein ähnliches Angebot zu sein, wie die USD-Anlagen von IKB, PBB, SBI etc., nur dass hier das Währungsrisiko in die "dynamischen Zinssätze" eingepreist zu sein scheint?
@Spooky78:
Danke für deine gewohnt handfesten Informationen und Einschätzungen.
Hatte mir diese freedom 24 Seite letzte Woche auch mal angeschaut und kann deine Aussagen unterstreichen.
"Betrug" ist das definitiv nicht, aber eben auch eher kein klassisches Tagesgeld.
Das Standard & Poors Rating sowie die ganzen Banklizenzen sind jedenfalls tatsächlich vorhanden.
Im übrigen sind 3,88 Prozent p.a. auf Euro Einlagen aktuell vollkommen realistisch.
Währe interessant zu lesen was @StefanEhrlich dazu sagt.
@ Sonnenschein: Einen vorsätzlichen Betrug kann man hier m.E. nicht unterstellen. Das Kürzel "lp" zu Beginn der URL deutet eher auf eine Landing Page (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landingpage) hin. Freedom24 ist ein in Zypern beheimateter Online-Broker, der auch über eine Niederlassung in Berlin verfügt. Die offerierten hohen Zinssätze ergeben sich dadurch, dass es sich hierbei nicht um klassische Tages- oder Festgeldanlagen, sondern um komplexe Finanzprodukte auf Basis von OTC-Währungsswaps u. Ä. handelt. Das ist nichts Illegales, aber eher etwas für professionelle Anleger oder riskoaffine "Zocker".
Hallo Jens,
bin nicht Stefan, doch ich habe gerade geschaut und würde mit meinem Laienverstand behaupten, dass es sich um Betrug handelt.
Die Webadresse lautet: lp.freedom24.com, sie erscheint gleich ganz oben "Gesponsert" ist angeblich auf Zypern.
Die wahre Webadresse lautet: freedom24.com, also ohne "lp" und wenn ich es richtig sehe sitzen sie in Berlin!
Zudem finde ich, dass 6,39 % Zinsen für Tagesgeld "zum Himmel schreien" - in meinen Augen völlig utopisch und unglaubwürdig.
Die gesamte Webseite wirkt auf mich zusammengeschustert!
Kein echtes "Impressum", kein Verantwortlicher ...
Gute Nacht - im doppelten Sinne ;)