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@Stefan
Finde ich super, dass ihr das hier (inzwischen ;-) ) so getrennt darstellt und dafür lieber auf etwas Provision verzichtet statt es ganz oben zu listen!
Kleine Korrektur bei der Erklärung zum Bonuszins (wenn man hier auf der Seite bei Scalable Capital die Erklärung dazu aufklappt)
Dort steht von euch:
"Ganz wichtig: Bei dem Bonus handelt es sich NICHT um Kapitalerträge, sondern um Sonstige Einkünfte, für die in Deutschland ein persönlicher Freibetrag von 256 € pro Jahr und Person gilt. Bei sehr hohen Anlagebeträgen werden Sie daher die manuelle Versteuerung dieses Bonus im Rahmen der Steuererklärung nicht vermeiden können. Lesen Sie sich wie immer bei solchen Bonusaktionen unbedingt das Kleingedruckte genau durch (siehe Webseite von Scalable Capital)."
Es handelt sich jedoch um eine Freigrenze und nicht um einen Freibetrag (evtl. noch das § 22 Nr. 3 EStG dazu schreiben, dann kann sich jeder noch selbst etwas dazu suchen). Sprich wenn 256 € erreicht oder überschritten werden, wird der GESAMTE Betrag mit dem persönlichen Steuersatz versteuert! Die 255,99 werden also nicht wie z.B. bei der Abgeltungssteuer mit dem (dort) Freibetrag von 1.000,- pro Person verschont.
Interessant wäre auch ob Scalable Capital das automatisch ans Finanzamt meldet. So hat es z.B. meine Krankenkasse bei einem "Bonus" nach § 22 Nr. 3 EStG gemacht! (ist mir zufällig beim Datenabruf über Elster aufgefallen)
Finde die Aktion auch ziemlich bescheuert ... Bonuszinsen, die keine Kapitalerträge sind, listen wir ohnehin nur als Bonus (blauer Zins neben dem Balken) und nutzen nur die 2,6 % als Standardzins. Dadurch fällt die Bank automatisch nach hinten. Denke, das ist nur fair! Lustig übrigens: Gestern Abend waren es beim Einpflegen der Konditionen bzw. des Bonus noch 3 Transaktionen, die notwendig sind. Heute sind es schon 4 :D ... So schnell ändert man die Bonuskonditionen bei Scalable :-)
Ja das ist seit gestern bekannt bzw. neu. Aber ich wollte es hier nicht melden, da ich das mit dem Bonus absolut bescheiden finde (denn da war es noch mit 2,6% ohne Bonus gelistet).
Gerade noch einige Berichte zu FollowMyMoney im Netz von gestern gefunden (erste deutsche Bank mit 4,1% bla, bla, bla). Die scheinen wohl eine gute Provision zu zahlen (Affiliate). Und natürlich in keinem Bericht etwas zu lesen von der Versteuerung des Bonus ;-)
Ist das wirklich neu? Scalable ist schon jetzt mit 2,6% + 1,4% Bonus (bekanntermaßen anders zu versteuern...) + 4,99 EUR monatliche Kosten gelistet.
Wenn das einzige, was jetzt neu ist, die Pflicht ist, das Depot auch zu nutzen (wie von Dagobert geschrieben), sollte das im Hinweis noch ergänzt werden.
Ich würde Scalable aber auf keinen Fall im Listing an die Spitze setzen. Denn die Zinsen betragen eben nur 2,6%.
Es sind aber nur 1,4% Bonus ;-)
2,6% Basiszins von der Baader Bank und 1,4% Bonus von Scalable Capital.
Und schlimmer geht immer, jetzt wollen sie auch noch 4 Trades haben um den Bonus zu erhalten!
"Im Zeitraum September bis Dezember 2023 mindestens vier Wertpapiertransaktionen ausführen lassen (Sparpläne und/oder Einzelaufträge)."
Jetzt wird wohl Zeit diese Angebote auch aufzunehmen. Auch wenn die 2,6% Bonus nicht abgesichert sind :-))
Die 4,90 Im Monat kann man ja mit dem Bonus verrechnen
Allerdings ist das Angebot an ein kostenpflichtiges!! Depot gebunden.
Zitat aus dem von mir verlinkten Artikel:
"Nachteil an dem Angebot ist, dass es an das jederzeit kündbare Angebot Prime+ Broker gekoppelt ist. Das kostet 4,99 Euro pro Monat, beinhaltet aber auch eine Trading-Flatrate ab 250 Euro Ordervolumen. Wer also regelmäßig Aktien, ETFs oder andere Wertpapiere handeln möchte, für den ist der neue Zinskracher vielleicht eine spannende Alternative. Bei einem Wechsel eines bestehenden Wertpapierdepots zu Scalable Capital, ist ein Wechselbonus in Höhe von bis zu 2.500 Euro möglich. Ab Januar gilt für Prime+-Kunden der dann gültige und variable Standardzins in Höhe von aktuell 2,6 Prozent pro Jahr."