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Lieber Hans-Jürgen! Vielen Dank! Ich bin auch gespannt, wie es mit den Zinsen weitergeht. Das Forum hier ist wirklich toll. Schöne Grüße, Kathrin
Hallo Kathrin!
Wenn Du von der Suresse Direkt Bank den Jährlichen Einkommens Bericht hast, dann hast Du wohl alles, was Du von dort bekommen kannst.
Deutsche Banken müssen ihren Kund(inn)en, sofern Kapitalerträge erzielt wurden, nach Abschluss des Jahres eine Steuerbescheinigung - meinst Jahressteuerbescheinigung genannt - ausstellen und zukommen lassen bzw. zur Verfügung stellen. Für ausländische Banken gibt es eine solche Verpflichtung meines Wissens nicht. Von diesen bekommt man aber dennoch eine Zinsbescheinigung (z. B. CA Auto Bank, Credit Agricole, Klarna), eine Erträgnisaufstellung (z. B. LesePlan Bank), einen Jahresrechnungsabschluss (z. B. TF Bank) oder eben diesen Jährlichen Einkommens Bericht der Suresse Direkt Bank.
Im Rahmen der Steuererklärung braucht man die Jahressteuerbescheinigungen bzw. sonstigen Nachweise nicht mehr mit einzureichen. Das Finanzamt kann sie aber zur Überprüfung ggf. nachfordern, so dass auf jeden Fall dringendst zu empfehlen ist, die Anlage KAP genauestens auszufüllen.
Ergebnis einer kurzen Recherche (ohne Gewähr):
Die im Ausland von deutschen Steuerpflichtigen erzielten Kapitalerträge werden auch an das Bundeszentralamt für Steuern (BZSt) gemeldet. Die dort gesammelten Daten werden Ende September an die zuständigen Finanzämter weitergeleitet. Die örtlichen Finanzämter können damit einen Abgleich mit den von den Steuerpflichtigen in der Steuererklärung gemachten Daten durchführen. Ob bzw. in welchem Umfang das geschieht, kann ich natürlich nicht beurteilen.
Wenn Du jetzt also Lust hast, Deine Steuererklärung zu machen, kannst Du loslegen. Viel Spaß! ;-)
VG Hans-Jürgen
Lieber Hans-Jürgen, der Jahresabschluss liegt mir jetzt vor, also die Auflistung der Zinsen pro Monat, aber ich dachte immer ich brauche eine Steuerbescheinigung für die Steuererklärung…
@Kathrin
Hallo Kathrin!
Du benutzt in Deiner Frage die Begriffe Steuerbescheinigung, Zinsbescheinigung und Jahresabschluss. Bevor ich spekulieren muss, welches Dokument Du konkret meinst, gib mir bitte eine kurze Rückmeldung, ob Dir der Jährliche Einkommens Bericht der Suresse Direkt Bank zwischenzeitlich vorliegt.
VG Hans-Jürgen
@Hans-Jürgen/Marcplace/Fred:Benötigt man für die Steuererklärung eine Steuerbescheinigung/Zinsbescheinigung? Oder reicht dafür der Jahresabschluss
@Kathrin,
am 09.02.2024, gekündigt.
Gleichzeitig eine Mail geschrieben, wie ich die Bescheinigung brauche, weil 23 und 24 Zinsen anfielen, sehr zeitnahe
standen die Meldungen im Postfach.
Wann genau kann ich nicht schreiben, das Konto ist gelöscht, deshalb kein Zugang mehr. Auf den Bescheinigungen steht kein Ausstellungsdatum, sondern nur vom 01.01.2023 - 31.12. 2023, bzw. 01.01.2024 - 31.12-2024.
Bei der Kündigung per Mail geschrieben das ich die Meldungen gesplittet, Jahre, haben möchte, schon war es gut.
@Kathrin
ich antworte mal die Zeitabläufe von mir.
Antrag: 27.7.2023
Valuta: 31.7.2023
Da lagen noch Samstag und Sonntag, 28. und 29. dazwischen.
Schneller kann es wohl nicht gehen.
Ich habe inzwischen den Steuerbescheid von der Suresse Bank bekommen (Anfang Mai). Das ist für mich kein Problem. Da ich diese Steuern ja nachzahlen muß habe ich es auch nicht eilig. Ansonsten hatte ich kein Problem mit der Bank. (Wenn man später kündigt kann man natürlich auch erst später als Neukunde wieder ein Konto eröffnen.)
Bei der Suresse Direkt Bank ging es bei mir auch schnell.
Die jährlichen "Einkommens Berichte" wurde mir ebenfalls gesplittet 2023 und 2024 ins Postfach gestellt.
Anschließend habe ich das Konto sofort gekündigt.
In Bezug auf die Suresse Direkt Bank möchte ich gerne über ein paar positive bzw. interessante aktuelle Erfahrungen berichten:
Bei mir war gestern ein einjähriges Festgeld fällig. Als ich mich dann kurz nach 00.00 Uhr in das Online-Banking eingeloggt habe, konnte ich feststellen, dass das fällige Festgeld einschließlich der Zinsen schon auf mein Tagesgeldkonto übertragen waren. Ich habe dann gleich die Überweisung des Gesamtbetrages auf mein Referenzkonto bei der DKB vorgenommen, was auch umgehend vollzogen wurde. Heute am frühen Morgen (vor 09.00 Uhr) war der Betrag dann auf meinem Girokonto gutgeschrieben. Schneller geht es aufgrund des gestrigen Feiertages wohl nicht.
Gestern habe ich dann auch festgestellt, dass im Online-Banking auch schon ein "Jährlicher Einkommens Bericht" für das Jahr 2024 existiert. In diesem sind die monatlichen Zinsen für das Tagesgeld (01-2024 bis 05-2024: bei mir jeweils 0,00 €) sowie auch schon die Zinsen für das gestern fällige Festgeld ausgewiesen. Dieser Bericht wird scheinbar (neuerdings? - ich weiß nicht, ob es so etwas auch schon in der Vergangenheit gab) laufend aktualisiert.
Als Tipp für Kund(inn)en, die sich ggf. zeitnah von der Geschäftsbeziehung mit der Suresse Direkt Bank zurückziehen wollen, um dann in 2 Jahren wieder von einem eventuellen Aktionszins beim Tagesgeld profitieren zu können, würde ich folgende Vorgehensweise empfehlen:
1. Das Tagesgeldkonto einschl. der ggf. noch anfallenden Zinsen komplett räumen.
2. Den "Jährlichen Einkommens Bericht" für das Jahr 2024 ausdrucken.
3. Erst dann die Kündigung des Tagesgeldkontos vornehmen.
Durch die vorstehende Verfahrensweise wird vermieden, dass man als ehemalige Kundin/ehemaliger Kunde im kommenden Jahr unnötig lange auf die Übersendung des anzufordernden Einkommensberichtes warten muss, wie es kürzlich Kathrin und marcplace berichtet haben.
Kurioserweise habe ich dann heute festgestellt, dass der aktuell in Online-Banking bei mir hinterlegte "Jährliche Einkommens Bericht" für das Jahr 2023 nicht mehr dem entspricht, den ich Ende Januar ausgedruckt habe. Das gestern fällige Festgeld ist dort nicht mehr aufgeführt. Dieses spielt aber ohnehin keine Rolle, da ich dafür im vergangenen Jahr noch keine Zinsen erzielt habe. Die EDV-technischen Verfahren der Suresse Direkt Bank sind und bleiben somit weiter undurchsichtig.
Dennoch bin ich mit dieser Bank weiterhin im Wesentlichen sehr zufrieden.
VG Hans-Jürgen